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Dugan EK: I was just thinking -- one of the major "lost films" of Jeanette's career that is still lost is Une Heure Près de Toi -- or are we discussing Nelson today?
Beth Kenobi: no, it
Beth Kenobi: s Jeanette
Beth Kenobi: No one else seems to be on, but is still before 8
Dugan EK: Maybe it will be just us chickens --
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Beth Kenobi: :-)
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DIXC: Hi!:-)
Beth Kenobi: hi
DIXC: Thanks for finding me and getting to the chat
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Beth Kenobi: :-)
Dugan EK: Can someone go fetch JeanetteFan1?
Beth Kenobi: i will
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JeanetteFan1: hi everyone
JeanetteFan1: thanks jessi and eleonor
JeanetteFan1: :-D
Mamalionsea: Thanks. But if an IM comes through I may disappear again.
JeanetteFan1: yes this thing does not will for me
Dugan EK: Films for today's discussion are --- ?
Beth Kenobi: Let me check
Mamalionsea: But here I am in Seattle on PDT!
JeanetteFan1: thats a different sign on name i have you has mamalion27
Beth Kenobi: Monte Carlo, The Lottery Bride, Oh, For the man, Don't bet on the women, and possibly Annabelle's affairs
Dugan EK: I copied the excellent schedule -- and now can't find it. THANKS.
JeanetteFan1: ah monte carlo i just watched it
JeanetteFan1: GREAT film
JeanetteFan1: i love the duet over the phone
JeanetteFan1: i cant help thinking it would be a cell phone today
JeanetteFan1: lol
Dugan EK: Very stylish film. And what a let-down for poor Jeanette to go on and do the awful Lottery Bride. And what an irony that Lottery Bride video is for sale, but not Monte Carlo!
JeanetteFan1: i had never thought of that
JeanetteFan1: i wish jack did more films with jeanette
Dugan EK: I have a giant (30" high) photo blow-up of J in bed talking on phone -- from a theatre lobby display.
JeanetteFan1: 8-)thats cool
Mamalionsea: We are in unfamiliar territory here because all my notes are at home and these films are not as familiar to me.
JeanetteFan1: ah
JeanetteFan1: beyond the blue horizon is a classic
JeanetteFan1: a richard whiting song i think?
Dugan EK: Few American realize what a HUGE English star Buchanan was. He was also very much into production. He and John Logie Baird marketed the first TV sets in the UK long before we had any.
Mamalionsea: Love that song!
JeanetteFan1: hmmmm thats an interesting item
Dugan EK: On my first visit to the UK in 1969, I stepped in an elevator and heard "Always in All Ways" playing -- I was in heaven!
JeanetteFan1: ah
JeanetteFan1: another classic
JeanetteFan1: and i like the bits about the opera about the barber
JeanetteFan1: sort of like the figaros
JeanetteFan1: le nozze di figaro(mozart)
JeanetteFan1: and the barber of seville
JeanetteFan1: rossini
Dugan EK: Except the premise is a nobleman rejected because he masquerades as a barber -- thus discovering the true nature of the lady he loves.
JeanetteFan1: O:-)
Beth Kenobi: What was theplot of MC?
Dugan EK: A nobleman masquerades as a barber in order to be near a lady he has taken a fancy to.
JeanetteFan1: i like the bit when she runs out on her wedding
JeanetteFan1: lol
Dugan EK: She falls for him, but is horrified that she has sunken so low as to kiss a commoner --
Mamalionsea: Jeanette did a lot of running away in her movies, didn't she?
Dugan EK: Yes, escaping one's wedding wearing only a silk teddy and fur coat is a classic scene.
JeanetteFan1: thats when she sing beyond the blue horzion
Dugan EK: Just saw a 1944 German film, Die Frau meiner Traume, with the same opening! They stole it, of course.
JeanetteFan1: and does it again in a duet at the enr with jack
JeanetteFan1: hmmmm
Dugan EK: Lubitsch was accused of stealing the train sequence in Monte Carlo -- as I note in my book. But probably it was just coincidence since he hadn't had an opportunity to see the German film with a similar scene.
Dugan EK: When sound was so new and all, great minds jumped to some of the same solutions for using it on film.
Mamalionsea: And today they still rehash sequences from the classics!
Beth Kenobi: such as singing Indian Love call
Mamalionsea: Everything old is new again except with more sex.
Dugan EK: A friend just saw "Down with Love," spoof of the Rock Hudston-Doris Day films of the 1960s, and says it proves what a brilliant actor Hudson was -- that he could make such marshmallow totally believable -- and be gay on top of it!
Mamalionsea: Yes, he was.
Beth Kenobi: I so want to see that movie!
Mamalionsea: Exceptional in  all of his movies.
Dugan EK: That he could so convincingly play a total cad with women, yet be adorable and convince you that, once he married Doris, he'd be a perfect husband. Great acting!
JeanetteFan1: it does look kind of cute
Dugan EK: If we're plugging films, I'll put in a word for Bend It Like Beckham - greatest film in years.
Beth Kenobi: It has Ewan McGreger in it, thats why I want to see it.  Plus the plot sounds interesting
JeanetteFan1: ah
Mamalionsea: I loved "Darling Lili"
Dugan EK: I guess we need to get back to early Paramount/Fox films.
JeanetteFan1: yep
Beth Kenobi: yea..
Dugan EK: It is a TERRIBLE tragedy that most of Annabelle's Affairs was lost in the vault fire -- contemporary critics said it was better than Monte Carlo. Jeanette, in the one surviving reel, is cute as a bug's ear.
JeanetteFan1: really?thats what happend to the film?
JeanetteFan1: how sad
Dugan EK: Don't Bet on Women suffers terribly from having all the songs cut.
Mamalionsea: There were several films listed as the lost films.
JeanetteFan1: its good comedy though
Dugan EK: There was a mysterious fire in the Fox film vaults during a vicious take-over attempt -- many great classic films were lost.
JeanetteFan1: where there any more lost jeanette films?
Mamalionsea: What are the other ones? I have a list at home.
JeanetteFan1: i liked what i saw of the early films
Dugan EK: One reel is missing from Oh, For a Man! -- but Jeanette doesn't figure in it. Sadly, the delightful commedienne Marjorie White sings her one song in the film in the lost reel.
JeanetteFan1: ah i thought we had the whole thing
JeanetteFan1: jeanette sings wagner!
Dugan EK: (Marjorie costarred in "Sunnyside Up." and bunch of lost early Fox musicals.)
JeanetteFan1: tristan and isolde
Dugan EK: At the garden party, reel 6 is missing where Marjorie sings.
JeanetteFan1: hmmm
Dugan EK: Or is it reel 5 -- I'd have to look it up. Jeanette apparently does nothing important in that reel and the plot doesn't suffer.
JeanetteFan1: we at least have a good deak of the film
JeanetteFan1: deal
JeanetteFan1: regineld denny was interesting
JeanetteFan1: sort of different for jeanette
Dugan EK: I commented before most people came on about the lost Une Heure Près de Toi, but I guess I should save that lost film for the week when we get to One Hour with You.
JeanetteFan1: ah any hope of gettting it?
JeanetteFan1: maybe someone in france?
Mamalionsea: That's it. I knew there was one French version lost!
Dugan EK: Recently, I saw some Denny silent films -- he was absolutely brilliant!!!  Arguably funnier and sexier than Cary Grant. Tragically, these restored films are shown only at UCLA -- otherwise, Denny would have to be re-evaluated as a m
Dugan EK: major talent of the silent era.
JeanetteFan1: thats interesting
Dugan EK: When I lived in France 1989-90, I tried everywhere to find a copy of the French Merry Widow (La Veuve Joyeuse) and everyone, including the Cinémathèque and Chevalier's secretary, swore that the film no longer existed. Happily, a cop
Dugan EK: copy was found a few years later!
Mamalionsea: Sadly his later roles were character parts,
Dugan EK: Yes -- Denny never sparkled in sound films. Maybe he had aged just that little bit and lost his youthful fire. (Like Ramon Novarro.)
JeanetteFan1: ah ramon
JeanetteFan1: another character
Mamalionsea: He had such a tragic ending.
Dugan EK: So sad that people with long, illustrious careers are remembered only for something like a tragic death.
JeanetteFan1: indeed
Mamalionsea: I'm sure there is enough left of his  films to attest to his talent.
Beth Kenobi: :-)
Beth Kenobi: sorry I am a but out of the chat.....I had to look something up and am doing hw at the same time
JeanetteFan1: what is everyones fav of jeanettes early films sooo far?
Dugan EK: Love Parade!
JeanetteFan1: ah
Mamalionsea: The Merry Widow
Beth Kenobi: no clue, never saw them
JeanetteFan1: i have 2 love parade and monte
Dugan EK: (That's not "so far.")
Dugan EK: Merry Widow --
JeanetteFan1: oh i forget that one
JeanetteFan1: :-D
DIXC: I am not very familiar with any films before Naughty Marietta.
Beth Kenobi: same with me
DIXC: Just to young; ha, ha.
JeanetteFan1: they are great!
DIXC: too
Mamalionsea: I have watched some of them but not as often as the movies with Nelson.
JeanetteFan1: ah nelsonO:-)
DIXC: Nelson brought me into films too.
DIXC: Nice to learn from those with all the great knowledge of ALL FILMS
JeanetteFan1: oh dear
JeanetteFan1: i must leave early
JeanetteFan1: i hate to run
JeanetteFan1: it was great chatting
Mamalionsea: We'll miss you!
JeanetteFan1: keep the chat going
JeanetteFan1: thanks
JeanetteFan1: i will read what goes on
DIXC: Take care.:-)
JeanetteFan1: thats
JeanetteFan1: O:-)
JeanetteFan1: have a great nelson and jeanette filled week
JeanetteFan1: 8-)
JeanetteFan1: feel free to chat when you see me online
DIXC: :-\
JeanetteFan1: :-)
JeanetteFan1: bye for now
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Mamalionsea: EK, which films that J did could be considered pre-code?
Mamalionsea: Surely, we are still in that period?
Mamalionsea: My memory is gone today
DIXC: Didn't the code come about 1934?
Mamalionsea: I think that is about right.
DIXC: Ths Catholic church began a "Legion of Decency" program about then too, I believe.
DIXC: "The"
Mamalionsea: Yes, we had the Hays Office and the Legion of Decency.
Mamalionsea: Jessi, what other movies do we have left on the list for tonight?
Dugan EK: (I'm on the phone long distance with client - sorry.)
Beth Kenobi: Oh, for the Man i think hasn't been discussed yet
Mamalionsea: I'm not familiar with that one either. I should have brought my other notes with me.
Mamalionsea: And my mind as well!
Mamalionsea: :-D
Mamalionsea: Shall we save that one until later?
Beth Kenobi: We can leave it for tomorrow
Beth Kenobi: *correction: Next sunday
Beth Kenobi: sorry
Mamalionsea: Tomorrow?
Mamalionsea: That's better.
Mamalionsea: Next week I will be back home.
DIXC: I will have to leave now. Hope to talk next week with you. Bye.:-)
DIXC: :-)
Mamalionsea: Bye Dick
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Mamalionsea: I have to go, too. This separated keyboard is giving me fits.
Mamalionsea: Bye for now.:-)
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